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PostSubject: What is the current rules for copying jutsus   Mon 22 Dec 2008, 2:15 am

TItle says all

What is the current rules for copying jutsus using sharingan cause if it has no rules anyone with sharingan can copy all jutsus in the world...
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PostSubject: Re: What is the current rules for copying jutsus   Mon 22 Dec 2008, 9:25 am

There are no current rules. Except that it can't be a bloodline.

But I will question if Kakashi really copied the techniques with a blink of an eye?
Look at Sasuke and Itachi, neither of them "copied" a jutsu. My theory is that Kakashi already knew the techniques. Only trying to make it look like he copies them.
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PostSubject: Re: What is the current rules for copying jutsus   Mon 22 Dec 2008, 9:43 am

Oh...so that means they can copy as many jutsus as they want...
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PostSubject: Re: What is the current rules for copying jutsus   Mon 22 Dec 2008, 11:36 am

Sharingan can copy any techniques. ANY even if its water, wind, stone, rock, metal, fire, lightning, or more that you might don't have and but can't copy kekkei genkei, most genjutsus don't work on sharingan ppl., though.
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PostSubject: Re: What is the current rules for copying jutsus   Mon 22 Dec 2008, 11:39 am

look at the jutsu because some requrire lots of training that you couldnt copy such as my dust in the wind jutsu
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PostSubject: Re: What is the current rules for copying jutsus   Mon 22 Dec 2008, 1:13 pm

The sharingan does not allow someone to directly copy a jutsu. Kakashi could copy them so well because of how deductive he was, the sharingan let's someone look even closer at a technique (how the chakra moves so on and so forth) making it really easy to learn. However, it's not instantaneous, they can't just use the technique after seeing it, unless, like Kakashi, they watched very carefully and already had a very good knowledge on jutsus and chakra. If we look at Sasuke and Itachi, everytime Sasuke copied something, like Rock Lee's movements or the Chidori, it took him about a week, as although he now saw how they were doing their techniques, he still needed practice to accomplish it himself.

The point is, Sharingan doesn't allow you to copy techniques, it allows you to see techniques. By being able to see techniques, you can figure them out. If you canf igure them out, they're that much easier to learn.

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PostSubject: Re: What is the current rules for copying jutsus   Mon 22 Dec 2008, 4:28 pm

So, exept if its a super complicated jutsu to make, we can copy it?
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PostSubject: Re: What is the current rules for copying jutsus   Thu 01 Jan 2009, 7:35 am

I could vote for a rule that up to C rank techniques could be instantly copied with the Sharingan.
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PostSubject: Re: What is the current rules for copying jutsus   Thu 01 Jan 2009, 10:39 pm

Daedalus wrote:
The sharingan does not allow someone to directly copy a jutsu. Kakashi could copy them so well because of how deductive he was, the sharingan let's someone look even closer at a technique (how the chakra moves so on and so forth) making it really easy to learn. However, it's not instantaneous, they can't just use the technique after seeing it, unless, like Kakashi, they watched very carefully and already had a very good knowledge on jutsus and chakra. If we look at Sasuke and Itachi, everytime Sasuke copied something, like Rock Lee's movements or the Chidori, it took him about a week, as although he now saw how they were doing their techniques, he still needed practice to accomplish it himself.

The point is, Sharingan doesn't allow you to copy techniques, it allows you to see techniques. By being able to see techniques, you can figure them out. If you canf igure them out, they're that much easier to learn.


Damn Seiyuuki you made it clear again! thx...^^
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PostSubject: Re: What is the current rules for copying jutsus   Thu 01 Jan 2009, 10:41 pm

Naito Aburame wrote:
I could vote for a rule that up to C rank techniques could be instantly copied with the Sharingan.

Could be...cause "Some Uchiha on this site...." copies it ....easily...
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PostSubject: Re: What is the current rules for copying jutsus   Wed 07 Jan 2009, 2:17 am

Hmm... Sharingan can copy perfectly..because it can read handseals....the only
jutsus that cant be copied is the higher rank jutsus..........just posting...........
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PostSubject: Re: What is the current rules for copying jutsus   Wed 07 Jan 2009, 2:32 am

Anybody can read handseals. The only case you'd need the sharingan to read hand seals for was if you were against kakashi himself. Keep in mind he didn't increase his seal speed so that people couldn't guess the technique, it was so that he could use the techniques faster. Like c'mon, if you had to do fourty four seals for the water dragon jutsu, don't you think you'd want to do it quickly.

Not only that, hand seals are the smallest part of a jutsu. I mean, sure, they do help mold your chakra, but most of that is internal. A hand seal is maybe only ten percent. I'd have to say your wrong about why the sharingan allows the user to copy jutsus, Kenzaki. However, I do agree, we should make a rule that they can only copy certain ranks instantly, unless your good, like Kakashi... but good luck, even Itachi didn't get that far. Madara might have, but we don't know yet.

But I do believe, that the sharingan simply allows you to take in light faster (hence the extra pupils). By taking in light faster, you can see faster (given that your brain can keep up). Naturally, there are other aspects such as the genjutsu and amaterasu and all that, but let's stick to the copying for this thread.

Remember Naruto and Sasuke's fight in the Valley of the End. For those of you that didn't... Naruto went One Tail on Sasuke's ass, I think even two at the end but I can't really recall. Sasuke then developed an extra tomoe, and does anyone remember what he noticed as soon as he got it? He could predict naruto's movements, because he could see which way Naruto's Kyuubi chakra was going even that fraction of a second before Naruto moved. So that's definite proof the sharingan can see chakra.

Now, when most people go and learn jutsus, it's all about trial and error. How many times did it take Naruto to figure out how to manipulate and hold his chakra just right to cut the waterfall in half? Alot. Now, if you can see someone's chakra moving within them, you already know how you're going to have to move your own chakra. Could you replicate the technique instantly? Probably not, but it gives you a huge head start.

Hence why it took Sasuke a while to learn Rock Lee's combat style, and Chidori. Kakashi has a bit more of an edge, because he's practiced, and he's trained himself to recognize jutsus without the use of his eye. Kakashi has been seen using every style of elemental chakra (except for wind, but he probably knows it). After that point, I don't think too many jutsus would surprise you, after all, so many of them are similar anyways.

There, I'm done. Clearly there were more questions after my first erratic post, so I made an even more erratic one. Gratz.

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PostSubject: Re: What is the current rules for copying jutsus   Thu 08 Jan 2009, 5:13 am

Hmmm...I think we really need this one cause Tenshin just learned chidori just by copying
The first time Kitaro used it the next posts Tenshin could already utilized Raikiri.
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PostSubject: Re: What is the current rules for copying jutsus   Thu 08 Jan 2009, 5:32 am

Look at the post cause soon after that He did Raikiri Himself allowing me to ciopy it
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PostSubject: Re: What is the current rules for copying jutsus   Thu 08 Jan 2009, 5:45 am

No my mistake look at it again i said i did Chidori i just put Raikiri up asthe jutsu i used on accident. Smart A**

Quate in the Topic Kitaro Vs Tenshin: Tenshin jumped up over Kitaro head and then hit a rock with the chidori. Tenshin then looked at Kitaro. Tenshin then did the needed hand sings. " Lets figure out witch is stronger then." Tenshin says as he does another set of handsigns and then does Chidori. Tenshin then ran at Kitaro ready to calide the two lightning elements see see witch well hit.


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PostSubject: Re: What is the current rules for copying jutsus   Thu 08 Jan 2009, 7:58 am

Nah I meant we should put the rule that you cannot just copy jutsus like that so easy.
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PostSubject: Re: What is the current rules for copying jutsus   Thu 08 Jan 2009, 9:06 am

o sorry
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PostSubject: Re: What is the current rules for copying jutsus   Fri 09 Jan 2009, 7:14 am

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